Then there are taxpayers never using many tax provided government services:
tax support for education - taxpayers who have no children
tax support for welfare
tax support for building schools
tax support for the dnr
the list is endless; and according to you, no one should be forced to pay taxes for things they don't use...
Get with the program devised by the rich for the rich and of course most of them just happen to be republicans with the pens and the money to draw and design any program they want !
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So, now you spout off about republicans and their healthcare methods?
Don't ever forget,
it was the republicans that were allowed to write the legislation, acted upon and passed the legislation
you now have before you!
But, where were you ?
Where have you been hiding - in the dark no doubt,
about the present state of affairs
regarding the cable industry, and it's machinations that make the rest of us pay for channels and language channels many folks will never use.
Don't forget our auto, home and supplemental insurance policies also include many things some people will never use!
It's the same thing with healthcare reform.
The bogus insurance industry has been ripping off businesses who in combination with their workers pay for health insurance coverage for years.
The problem is they've just got caught!
Get real !
If you are real,
how would you design a universal healthcare coverage program?
So it's OK with you, Whiz, that a single guy, or post menopausal female has to buy a policy that covers maternity and well-child care even though that's not something they will ever need? Oh that's right, they have to buy that coverage to help subsidize all the folks that the taxpayers are paying for. And don't tell me that the single guy or older woman could still adopt or otherwise end up with a child -- if they do, then they should have the option to add the needed coverage, not be forced to pay for it if they don't need it.
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Today, republican bone.head bohn’er,
is telling the public
that the Affordable Healthcare Act - MUST GO !
What the hey?
President Obama’s first healthcare reform proposal was
merely 2,700 pages in length.
He and his buddies, extended the orginal proposal to 34,000 pages!
No wonder NANCY PELOSI was quoted as saying:
"the only way we will ever know what's in there - is to PASS IT" !
IMPORTANTLY - Obama’s original proposal
cut out the rich and their companies from selling
bogus policies, and allow every person to be able to buy healthcare insurance - removed from the ties to the workplace, and transportable to any job, no job!
BUT, really what should have happened,
LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY,
health insurance should have been remanded out of the realm of
for the rich and their corporations…
and the whole healthcare idea should have been NATIONALIZED,
just like collecting taxes !
Imagine, if you will
if the republicans and their companies could be in charge of setting tax rates and
collecting them as well !
Doesn’t make sense for that to fly!
But, they would certainly favor such an idea!
Bohn’er said that Obama’s original concept would not fly,
until he and his republican buddies,
and rich insurance companies had
their say with
WRITING THE LAW,
the so-called NEW and IMPROVED,
AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE ACT
which his buddies,
would encourage American's to finally buy!
Available at your favorite website
with 31,300 ADDITIONAL NEW PAGES OF mumble - jumble,
only a REPUBLICAN CORPORATIONs and their owners could never object to!
Bohn’er seems to have
that it was
HIS FRIENDS, and
in the insurance industry were the very people responsible for what we have today in the ACA,
namely 34,000 pages of twisted jargon that
firmly insures increases in insurance company profits!
Now he’s not blaming his very friends that were responsible for writing and crafting the ACA,
rather, the democrats!
When will republican snake’s cease to speak out of both sides of their reptilian mouth’s.
What the Hey? That is not the question. The question is I can now have insurance, because the health insurance industry can not black ball you if you have a pre-existing illness. The other good side is now anyone can get insurance and doesn't have to stay on one job just for the health insurance. You can buy your own insurance and go get a job, and work where the*****ever you want. whiteagle38
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So, no Obamacare, no problems? Seriously?
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the question should be asked:
What hasn’t gone up in price for you this year,
last year, and
the year before?
Surely, the question could have been asked:
Have your food cost’s gone up for 2014 ?
Have your food cost’s gone up for 2013, etc.,
Yes, it has gone up, I expected the premium to increase. What I did not expect was to lose my ploacy and replace it with one that covers less for more. The ACA is simple math, you can't spend more than you make. People who work for a living are going to have to work harder for less. There are a few things in the ACA that were well needed. But for me it has been a disaster, if anyone knows how to score a waiver I'm all ears.
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One more time. . .
“Why in the world would anyone ask this stupid question,
“has your health insurance costs increased in 2014.” ?
It’s no different than asking if it’s
colder outside ?
Colder inside ?
Has the sun shine increased in 2014 ?
Has the sun shine less in 2014 ?
Has it snowed out in 2014 ?
Has it snowed more in 2014 ?
Have you spent more for fuel in 2014 ?
Have you spent more for gasoline in 2014 ?
Has your furnace fuel cost more in 2014 ?
Has the cost of propane increased in 2014 ?
Isn’t there a warm body at the press that can pose a better poll question?
Like reading tea-leaves,
my depends show more indication of intelligent reading,
than the poll question and the answers to such a bogus press poll question impart.
What matters, more than anything else ?
Is that given the free-reign of health insurance companies, and the free-reign of health providers to digitally, and uniformly. increase prices with the click of a mouse button,
there is instantly and uniform ally increases in prices throughout the provider network only differentiated by individual costs and the various providers and added onto the base.
Health insurance has been a economically and profitable, beneficial cocktail for both insureres and providers.
Where once, providers had to deal with individual payers, providers now deal with anonymous, faceless payers, and feel free to charge whatever the insurance industry will stand to pay out.
Obviously, the corollary is Lloyds of London, and the multiplicity of risk sharing, that could afford to pay out huge, for the time, claims.
Clearly, there is NO insurer of “last resort” that exists today, to pay the every increasing payouts for health care.
Certainly, a modern healthcare insurance entity, similar to Lloyds of London is needed for today’s healthcare industry, or revert to healthcare paid directly by the recipient to the provider.
Once equilibrium is attained, and third party payers are taken out of the game,
healthcare providers would be forced to charging a fee that their customers could afford, OR
GO OUT OF
of BREAK-EVEN HEALTHCARE.
The healthcare market, in the words
of the rich,
their corporations would be self-regulating,
as allan greenspan and Russian born, girlfriend Ayn Rand would have exclaimed, in another world...
Laissez Faire for one and all !
It’s the “rational“, traditional,
American Free-Enterprise System of MARKETS,
that calls the "shots"
FOR everyone, except the rich.
Mine stayed the same for now. In 2017 mine will go up 70% for premiums and I don't know what will happen with co-pays and deductibles.
Reality is this. The government has stated that the average increase in costs will be 50% across the board. that includes everyone over time. Eventually all insured will be forced into the exchange system at higher costs. That is the choice people have. Pay more, and if you can afford to pay more, pay the fine.. er.. tax.
I don't expent Obama Care to be around in 2017. Obama Care will fizzle out this year. Sign ups are low and the scheduled cancellations of tens of millions more policies this year will force that law out of existence.
Nearly the same color as yours put not as pronounced!
Mellow-yellow with a taint of rose-color.
Would not the 'press' find it constructive to ask the question:
has your insurance coverage changed for the new year?
we all know and understand that most insurances' cost rise, gas prices rise, taxes rise (for workers), cable tv prices increase with decreasing service, and newsworthy 'information' at the press decreases....
frogleggs: What color is the sky in your world?
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conned certain 54,
will save us from the Republicans?
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With a little time
- less than it takes you to smoke a toke,
you could educate yourselves about what was originally proposed by the Obama administration
in the way of healthcare ‘insurance’ reform.
As you put it, “Obama will save us.”
Unfortunately, what you and the country is experiencing in the way of health insurance and its cost,
is being foisted on the American public by the insurance companies,
and not president Obama or his administration.
The plan for healthcare insurance, as originally proposed by the Obama administration,
cut to the bone,
Insurance Companies Profits or their ability to continue and deceive the public,
that the pig they were selling us,
was ‘healthcare insurance’,
when in realty it was designed to be a scheme for making money
for the rich and their insurance companies.
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One More Time !
The CURRENT form of the ACA, is a completed document conforming to the demands of
their corporations, and
This document GREW, from a
paltry 2,700 pages under the Obama administration,
to a document
more than 34,000 pages….
at the heavily lobbied insistence and from the PEN(s) and thinking of
- the republicans
- the u.s. chamber of commerce
- the american legislative exchange council
- the tea party
- citizens united,
- american’s for prosperity
- the heritage foundation,
- america’s PAC,
- the Koch brothers,
- their corporations and businesses and, regrettably,
- SUPREME COURT.
Not to worry Obama will save us all.
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