If a mascot name is derogatory I feel it should be eliminated. If it is not then it shouldn't have to be.
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This is Native American Land.
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How far back will people drag the issue of whose land and to who, does any land belong?
History reveals many peoples have walked these grounds,
and then the question,
who are the real owner’s custodians, or have superfluous, obsolete, ‘inherited’ rights to these grounds?
Only business and the rich have rights through perpetuity.
The question of native land, or ‘ownership’ begs the question …
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I would have nothing to do with any of it. If they like to cling the old culture, we should let them. Get new names for our teams. Then avoid their gambling houses.
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sorry Mike, but archeologist have proven Native Americans were NOT the first ones to this land.
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I would like to ask concerned54 WHOM gets to decide what IS and what IS NOT derogatory?
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This is your land, this is my land, but you can't gamble and I can. Oh and I don't like your mascot.
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'Whom' is never the subject of a verb.
'Who' is the subject of a verb.
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im part native american. as a child i road the school bus that said hannahville indians on the side. technically i guess you could say im native american. the word indian is NOT offense to me at all. although it usually refers to someone from india. it's just another word used to describe us and there is nothing offense about it. im not like huge into the culture, but i still think it's cool to have indian mascots just to keep it around. on a side note, come on down to the casino for great fun! its a shame our white skins cant open a casino as well. they dont kow the money they're missing.
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Being native American and an enrolled member, I find it offensive someone says that WE'RE offended. We should be(I am)proud that communities use a piece of our heritage as a mascot. Quit being so sensitive!
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To BDP593: I would suggest input from the Native American Community. Seems like a logical place to start.
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Dear Whizzywhig, My deepest apologies for offending your sense of proper grammar. You certainly put me in my place, irrelevant of the topic of conversation as your chastisement may be. I'll be certain to get counsel from a professional grammarian the next time I pose a question, so as not to offend your superior grasp of our common language.
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Here then, for your information, edification, enlightenment and enjoyment,
is a far cheaper way to resurrect forgotten grammar skills, aside from the expense of renting a professional grammarian:
McGraw-Hill Handbook of English Grammar and Usage
The Little, Brown Handbook
The Harbrace Handbook of English
Harbrace College Handbook
Heath’s College Handbook of Composition
Strunk and White – Elements of Style
With a little expended effort on self-study, hopefully you will soon be available to me and others as an English grammar mentor.
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I differ with your pronouncement that “I put you in your place.”
Of course, you have long ago established “your place”,
not because of a recent comment made about your failure to use, or temporarily forgot to use the correct rule for your word choice.
“Your place” was long ago established by yourself, not by me, nor by anyone else for that matter.
“Your place”, is the result of the many choices you have made long ago, along the way.
I also differ with your notion that my comment was “irrelevant.”
Everything, has relevance and is relevant by a matter of degree.
Choices, which include attention to detail, that could be indicative of your desire or lack thereof, and your ability to express yourself in an understandable manner to those who read your post.
Perhaps, one could concede that sloppy expression could also be indicative of sloppy, irrelevant or mistaken thought and logic processes.
One could posit that the mere opposition and se
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One could posit that the mere opposition and severe sensitivity regarding grammar usage underlies a significant, deeper psychological conflict regarding your ability to negotiate responses to argument contrary to your position, whether written or stated.
Proper grammar, like a person’s appearance and conduct, is a reflection of a person’s most basic sensibilities.
Why would any person not want to present themselves in a creditable manner, but rather, take exception to those who would offer a suggestion for improvement?
No need for you to apologize to me,
and there should be no need to hire a ‘professional grammar examiner’,
because all you needed to know were taught to you by the time you left the tenth grade of high school.
A mere ‘thank you’ would suffice for pointing out your oblivious word usage.
Or one could posit, Whiz, that you are a pompous windbag with far too much time on your hands. For advice on how to write clearly and succintly, I would refer you to Strunk and White's "Elements of Style."
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I am eighty plus years of age,
being held against my will,
when not under the direct influence of behavior modification prescriptions,
I tend to take advantage of times when I am not hallucinating, and spiel forth.
BR, quite possibly you might arrive here effectively medicated and constrained at your zenith…
I would consider mentoring you on life’s foibles…
between severe bouts of drool and medication you will undoubtedly experience.
I suspect that while I am much older than you, and even while bridled from prescriptive medication,
I am quite able and capable of helping you arrive at a better state from which you are currently delinquent.
BR, I await with anticipation your arrival to a state of better life experience through chemistry,
but hurry, my remaining days are finite.
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I thought you were advised once before, that you didn’t know what you were talking about?
Despite that fact, thank you for pointing out...
that I have too much time on my hands,
that I am pompous,
that I am a windbag,
any other pejoratives your indolent mind is capable of spewing forth…
Whizzy: Correcting one's grammar or syntax on the internet is nothing less than pointless. You post long-winded, multi-post that take up half a page, and are excruciatingly painful to read. Sometimes I agree with you, sometimes not. Don't waste your time with grammar or spelling or syntax. It makes you look like a patoot.
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Thank you for your contribution...
I challange you to trade places with me, or anyone else for that matter!
Sleep in this place for a nite, a week, a month, and see what you find for a diversion when you come out of the medical cloud!
i think, someone once said: "walk a mile in my slippers."
Not to be flippant, but if you see the tag "Wiz", why bother reading?
I'm sure there are many who have the benefit of their expertice to disagree with everything I post,
but clearly, upon putting pen to paper, their ignorance is exposed,
as they do not have the benfit of having lived as long, or too long!
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I am not Native American, but I do read a lot about their history and culture. And it is a history and culture to be proud of. Honoring a tribe or culture with a mascot is good, as long as it in not offensive. I am of Scandinavian decent. While I am a die hard packer fan, I am thrilled to see the "Vikings" recognizing my heritage.
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Thank you for your testament to the fact that grammar, syntax, and [illogical] reason, is beyond repair for most.
Having lived long, I cannot endorse poor grammar, poor syntax, or faulty thought and poor behavior.
I do not subscribe to obnoxious and boorish behavior and thought processes.
Too many people accept nothing, and nothing is what they get in return.
Too sad, that more people would not be more charitable and take the time to indicate where corrections are necessary.
By enabling those with such lack of ‘credentials’, we do nothing but perpetuate what people are willing to dish out as the status-quo.
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Whizzy. But you go at it like a bulk dog.
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